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Windows 10 Build 17025 Brings New Features and Improvements to the Slow Ring



UPDATE 12/7: During the initial download and verification process, the install of Build 17025 will fail with error code 80096004 for Insiders in the Slow ring. Additionally, any attempted downloads of language packs or additional Windows features (FODs) will also encounter an install failure for the affected builds. For more details, see this forum post.




Windows 10 Build 17025 Now In The Slow Ring




Upon its launch, the Windows Insider Program consisted of two rings: Fast and Slow. The reasons for this were obvious. The Fast ring is for if you want to stay on the cutting edge of new features, and the Slow ring is if you want to wait until the builds are a little more stable.


Builds in the Fast ring have become a lot more frequent, with a goal of weekly flights, while the Slow ring is meant to be monthly. Microsoft actually never even talks about the Release Preview ring, so there's no official word on what the latest Release Preview build number is, or what's new in it. And Skip Ahead is stagnant for the time being, since it's not quite time to start flighting builds from the next feature update, codenamed 19H1.


Indeed, it's pretty much just the Fast and Slow rings that matter, but unfortunately, the Slow ring hasn't been active in some time, and it's pretty ridiculous at this point. For one thing, Redstone 5 has been in development since February and there still hasn't been a single Slow ring build, which means that there are also no ISOs for those that want a clean installation.


But we can go back further than that. According to Brandon LeBlanc's Flight Hub, the first Redstone 4 (later the Windows 10 April 2018 Update, or 1803) build in the Slow ring was 17025, and that was released on November 1. The next was build 17074.1002, on January 19, which is a far cry from the monthly goal. It was another month and a half before build 17115 was seeded to the Slow ring on March 9, and that was right around when RS4 development was wrapping up, so they came more frequently after that.


ISOs were a worse story, as there was absolutely nothing new between build 17025 on November 15 and build 17115 on March 13. In fact, there hasn't been a new Windows Insider ISO since build 17127 was released on March 27, which means that you can't even download the RS4 RTM build, 17134.


So, here we are today, with exactly one of the four rings of the Windows Insider Program getting any new builds at all, and Slow ring Insiders stuck on version 1803, unless they want to go all in on the Fast ring.


At Microsoft's Build 2018 developer conference, the Insider team announced that it's aiming to fix all of this. It's going to be servicing Fast ring builds to make them ready for the Slow ring. That means that if a Fast ring build is a bit too buggy to meet the threshold for the Slow ring, the team will update it before release. For example, if the Fast ring gets build 17692, the Slow ring might get 17692.15 or something.


But this announcement was a month and a half ago, and there's still no sign of a new build in the Slow ring, or new ISOs for download. In fact, there have been six Redstone 5 builds of Windows Server, and not a single Slow ring build or ISO. Indeed, the Slow ring seems to be left behind everything else.


This is the question that it's all leading up to: what's the point? The Slow ring isn't just slow; it's completely stalled, and has been for some time now. The lack of ISOs leaves users going to sketchy third parties to download software for a clean installation, and that's not safe.


One must wonder why the Slow ring continues to exist, while other rings are being added. Yes, the quality threshold for Slow ring builds is much higher than that of the Fast ring, but every other branch of development has been able to do this without issue, and Microsoft used to be able to do this in the past for Windows 10.


We're now roughly three months from the RTM build of Redstone 5, which should end up being version 1809. That means that at best, there will be two Slow ring builds before those last few weeks when the team is finalizing it and builds get more frequent.


It seems like at this point, the Slow ring isn't being utilized at all, and should probably just be abolished. Since that isn't likely to happen, let's hope that the team keeps its promise of servicing builds for the Slow ring, and that the next development cycle will be more consistent because of that.


The ninja build system (used by Chrome) carefully manages the number of processes created in order to avoid overwhelming the system. It scales to the number of cores. We are not overloading the system and if we throttle process creation we will build Chrome more slowly.


CPU Usage was not at 50% on idle. CPU usage was at 50% during a build of Chrome. Which is appropriate. In fact, CPU usage probably should have been higher, and after this bug in Windows is fixed it will be higher.


I have noticed in my experience that all computers and OSs I use seem to be getting more and more bogged down during process closing operations. Not to the point of UI freezes mind you, just in system load. In my mind it has seemed correlated with attempts in all OSs to deal with security issues involving clearing memory on dealloc and doing proper memory management when returning the freed mem to the available pool. This is a pure blackbox/shotgun line of thinking on my part. But can you think of any factor that would affect linux, android, windows process close loading that would be more a result of an overall approach; like an industry-wide way of doing things?


The new half transparent windows calculator moves slower than other windows when dragged with the mouse.Machine: AMD FX-8320 (technically 4 cores, 8 threads), AMD RX580 GPU, 4 GB of RAM (I know that the RAM is the bottleneck in many cases).


After nearly two weeks Microsoft has finally delivered a new preview build of Windows 10 Redstone 4. Today's build is available to those on the Fast ring. Windows 10 Redstone 4 build 17035 brings a number of new features, including the ability to mute tabs in the Edge browser, along with some Fluent design additions.


Unfortunately, the build isn't available to machines with AMD processors due to a bug that causes PCs to bugcheck during upgrading to current builds. Microsoft has promised it is currently "investigating and working to fix" this issue and remove this block.


Windows 10 Redstone 4 due for a public release in Spring next year finally has begun to see some new features and developments. Today's build brings a number of smaller changes and improvements. Here's everything that is new with Windows 10 Redstone 4 Insider Preview build 17035 being rolled out to Insiders in the Skip Ahead and Fast ring.


Updated Ease of Access Settings: This build adds additional Ease of Access settings to further round out the revamping of settings which flighted for the first time with Build 17025. New sections on Display, Audio, Speech Recognition and Eye control (beta) have been added to group related settings. (NOTE: Eye control settings are not yet in this flight but coming soon.) 2ff7e9595c


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